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Live review: T in the Park 2011

Most Scottish people have a T in the Park story; either their own or a friend’s. When I went in 2004 (at the age of 17), a strange guy lumbered into my tent at 5am, off his head, and asked me if he could stay there a while. When I told him to fuck off back to his own tent, he responded: “Ah don’t have a tent. Ah don’t have a ticket. Ah got in by giein the security guy two eccies.” He eventually left, but it really put me off TITP – or the camping side of it anyway. That, and my friend’s vivid account of being at the festival in 2007 and seeing an off-her-tits woman rolling around on the grass, legs akimbo, curling out a meaty turd.

So when The Pop Cop asked me to review this year’s T, it was with some trepidation that I agreed. However, I reasoned that even if I had a negative experience, it would still (hopefully) make for an enjoyable read. Plus, I’d get to see Beyonce in real life. With that in mind, I bought my first pair of wellies since the age of seven (Primark, a tenner) and drove up to Balado on the early evening of Friday. It was a beautiful journey – peaceful, nice trees, sheep grazing in the sun-dappled fields of Perthshire – and I went a bit Braveheart thinking, “FUCKING YAS! SCOTLAND’S PURE NICE!”.

Then I arrived at T in the Park.

In recent years, I’d heard a lot of people complaining that the festival was a complete nedfest. I just assumed that they were exaggerating and being moany bastards because the two times I’d been previously (2003 and 2004) there had been a real mix of people: neds, moshbags, old folk, average Joes, sad men with Paul Weller haircuts who idolise Oasis. But this time was different; most people were neds. You know how in London you are surrounded by so much pollution that sometimes you get black bogeys? Well, my bogeys at TITP came out wearing trackies. About 60% of the men were taps aff and spent the majority of their time dancing to the rave music that was blaring from the dodgems rather than going to see any bands. And I saw the Kappa logo so many times that I had the image of two people sitting arse-to-arse burned into my retinas.

Once I’d acclimatised to the twatmosphere, I was ready to go and listen to some music. Unfortunately the time spent driving up, finding a parking space, trudging to the box office to collect my pass then stopping by the media tent meant that I missed Tom Jones by a bawhair. I was a bit disappointed as I’d been quite looking forward to gleefully staring at his face, like a happy child who had been plonked in front of the TV to watch The Grinch Goes To Miami And Gets An Awesome Tan.

I wandered over to the T Break tent to catch Sucioperro, mainly out of intrigue; these guys have been on the go since I wore baggy jeans and listened to Limp Bizkit. They sounded good, and the crowd were enjoying them, but I’m not a huge fan of that type of music any more – very Biffy-esque, which they’re probably sick of hearing despite their connections to the band (JP of Sucio plays with Simon Neil in Marmaduke Duke). After catching the very beginning of Aerials Up (who I’d heard of but had never heard before – they’re a seven-piece act with a cheery pop sound), it was time to decide which of the final acts of the evening I’d go to see.

Having seen some smaller Scottish acts, it made sense to now go for a big crowd-puller. My choices were Pendulum, Arctic Monkeys and 2manydjs. I asked Twitter which of the three to choose (after reckoning that this was like being asked to choose who my favourite Spice Girl was out of Sporty, Sporty and Sporty) and the majority voted for Pendulum.

They seem to be a very divisive band; popular with Radio 1 listeners and NME readers, and sneered at by everyone else. I went with an open mind – something which is important to do when you’re at a festival, especially one that doesn’t really cater for your music taste. I don’t know about everybody else but when it comes to live music I’d rather be pleasantly surprised by a band playing shit/average music well, than crushingly disappointed by a great band playing dismally. Pendulum played with great energy and really got the crowd going. They gauged the mood of their audience and played up to it accordingly, knowing exactly when to build things up slowly and when to go mental with their frenzied-sounding drum and bass. So from this it can be inferred that they’re probably good at sex too.

I have to admit though, I did get a little restless halfway through their set. They’re often criticised for all of their songs sounding the same and, well, they sort of do. I fastwalked to the King Tut’s Wah Wah tent to catch a bit of 2manydjs, who are actually a bit less Sporty and a bit more Ginger Spice. However, I was conscious of the fact that my being sober (due to driving home for work the next day) might negatively affect my enjoyment of their set. It did.

I went back to Pendulum, making a quick stop along the way at the Main Stage to see how Arctic Monkeys were faring. I stayed for about two songs – which admittedly isn’t really enough to judge a band’s live performance fairly – and found them to be lacklustre. Maybe it’s just Alex Turner’s lazy-sounding Sheffield accent, but they seemed to be going through the motions with no sense of vitality, and certainly no patter. A scout round the vast world of internet opinions informs me that I am the only person who found their performance to be a bore, so maybe I’m wrong (I’m not wrong).

So that was Friday: musically underwhelming and aesthetically quite horrifying. WHEN WILL PEOPLE REALISE THAT BUCKET HATS BELONG IN 1995?

On Saturday I was better prepared for what the festival might have in store for me (basically, I had my hands ready to cover my eyes any time someone got their willy out). I was working during the day so, again, only got to see the evening acts. My first stop was the Red Bull Bedroom Jam Transmissions Stage, where The Saw Doctors played a feelgood set of their hits, opening with N17. This was my first time seeing them live and they didn’t disappoint. Next, it was time to see how Crystal Castles were live. In a word: shite.

Beyonce was next, but before I went to see her I decided to sample some festival food. The selection at T was surprisingly impressive – there was a healthy section where you could get falafel, Mexican stew or even some smoked mussel pasta from the Loch Fyne Oyster Bar stall. But obviously the food stand attracting the majority of punters was the wonderfully-named Kebabylon.


After filling my belly and hoping that some of it would make my arse a bit fatter for some bum shaking, I ventured over to the Main Stage to see Beysus (that’s internetspeak for Beyonce, by the way. Beyonce + Jesus = Beysus). Clad in black sequins with her glorious mane blowing in the breeze, she looked every inch the glamorous goddess. And she sounded AMAZING. I’d never been to see a mainstream female singer live – which is mad, when I think about it – other than the Spice Girls, who I really ought to stop referencing, and it was a real treat to hear her sounding better live than on her records. She’s such a captivating performer, too. So captivating that I witnessed grown men with the Tennent’s logo shaved into their heads doing girly dances and singing along to all the words. The only criticism I’d make was that after such a powerful opening with songs like Crazy In Love, Single Ladies and Naughty Girl, her set kind of lagged in the middle. I didn’t like her cover of Kings Of Leon’s Sex On Fire (mainly because I wish that song would die in a fire), but it picked up again towards the end, and she finished by disappearing into the stage. I wouldn’t have expected any less.

I was a bit pissed off about The Strokes being on at the same time as Beyonce, especially when there was an abundance of terrible bands who I’d much rather she’d clashed with. I caught a couple of their songs, though, and they sounded brilliant. I then felt it was my duty to The Pop Cop, who is a Coldplay fan, to watch Chris Martin and Co when they took to the Main Stage. I remembered what my friends had said about their Glastonbury performance – about how they were great, and moved some of them to tears despite them not being fans. My mind was open wider than Belle de Jour’s vagina, ready to embrace them like the long-lost musical heroes they could well be. But, in the words of my friend Ciaran, they were “deeply, deeply beige”. They did play well, but not well enough for me to come over all misty-eyed and forget that I was freezing cold, standing in a field, watching fucking Coldplay.

Overall, Saturday was better than Friday, despite the fact that the only song I had stuck in my head when I left was the following, sung by a ned in the toilet queue: “JULIE’S DAIN A SHITE! JULIE’S DAIN A SHITE! ANN MARIE’S DOIN A PEE. ANN MARIE’S DOIN A PEE. JULIE’S DAIN A SHITE!” Poor wee Julie.


Sunday was when my welly-purchasing decision really came into its own. It bucketed down hard and fast; the kind of rain that makes you secretly think that you probably won’t need to shower for another week. I got to see for the very first time – because until now, all the festivals I’d been to had been sunny and dry – festival mud. Not only on the ground, but smeared across people’s faces and naked torsos. There were several mud fights, and it felt a bit like a modern day version of Lord of the Flies (or Lord of the Pies, judging by the bellies on show).

I hurried into the Red Bull tent to see an act who turned out to be not only the highlight of that day, but of the weekend – Metronomy. Like many others, I only got into them recently after hearing The English Riviera, which is one of my favourite albums of 2011 so far. They sounded excellent and played a tight set consisting of songs from that album interspersed with older favourites like Heartbreaker. They’re really worth seeing live. The bass. THE BASS!


I caught a bit of local singer-songwriter Rachel Sermanni after that. She has a very nice voice, but it was difficult to go from the loud energy of Metronomy to low-key folksy music. So I ran away and watched Weezer, and didn’t regret it one bit, especially when they did a great cover of Paranoid Android.

Pulp were up next, and Jarvis was the perfect frontman. Scraggly and cool, he made an effort with his between-songs chat and raised some cheers when he wiped his (unfortunately clothed, but at least we’ve all seen it bare once) arse with the final edition of the News of the World. I only really knew their big hits because I think Pulp were a bit grown-up for me when I was 10 – I don’t think I went any further than Blur – but that didn’t stop me from enjoying the songs I didn’t know. I can also stick Jarvis beside Dylan Moran on my People To Stalk When In Edinburgh list, as apparently he’s living there just now.

Foo Fighters were the grand finale; the whole weekend had more or less felt like a bit of a nostalgia-fest, so it seemed like a fitting note to end it on. Like all ‘true fans’ of every band ever, ‘I only like the old stuff’, and they played plenty of it along with their recent rubbish. They’re a tough live act to fault due to their sweaty hair and commitment to… no, I can’t do it. I can’t spell rock as ‘rawk’. But aye. You know what you’re in for with the Foos. They’re never going to ponce onto a stage, eyes glazed with disinterest, wearing a trilby. They are eager wee moshers.

So there we go, that’s the end. TITP knows its audience, or its ideal audience, and creates a line-up for them. It’s never going to be ATP or Coachella, because it doesn’t want to be. It’s just a shame that it’s overrun by bams who can be overheard spouting sage advice like, “Ok, Ok, shut up, listen. Here’s the plan. If you’re gonnae whitey, ah think, the plan should be that you just say, ‘I’m gonnae whitey’. Right?”

By Natasha Radmehr

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55 Responses to “Live review: T in the Park 2011”

  1. last year's girl Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 09:20

    …sad men with Paul Weller haircuts who idolise Oasis.

    It remains a source of my eternal shame that my wee brother is one of these men. Seems he was keeping a low key at the weekend though.


  2. last year's girl Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 09:23

    Also, this was very entertaining. I think you should get a permanent job here. Not least because it means less Coldplay.


  3. The Pop Cop Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 09:27

    Natasha has already been recruited on a lucrative long-term contract. Enough of the Coldplay dissing already!


  4. Ronnie Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 09:36

    PopCop what have you done?? Natasha, I’m sorry but you’re obviously a very nice posh girl that likes to overuse swearing to hide the fact that you are trying to be ‘down with the kids’ or something but it doesn’t work. I turned off with remarks like CC were ‘shite’ and Beyonce was ‘amazing’. Pom-puss and pre-ten-tious.


  5. Natasha Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 09:53

    Thanks last year’s girl.

    Define “posh” for me Ronnie, please. Eager to hear your definition. And as I stated in the review, I was judging acts by how they sounded live. In day to day life I’d be more likely to listen to Crystal Castles than Beyonce, but they were terrible live, while Beyonce put on a good show.


  6. P Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 10:02

    I laughed out loud (not in an LOL sense, but literally) at almost every paragraph of this.


  7. Anonymous Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 10:53

    Perhaps the upsurge in Neds can be attributed to the success of SportsDirect: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14149297

    Although JJB is in trouble so it could be a zero sum game.


  8. FitbaThatba Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 11:37

    ronnie sounds like a prize bell-end. This article was great and sums up exactly what I think about TITP and I couldn’t agree more about some of those reviews. Crystal castles are absolutely atrocious live and I also think it was a farce that The Strokes were on at the same time as Beyonce. I wasn’t there so I can’t complain too much I guess. Twitter followed!


  9. Stuart Moffat Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 11:56

    I do love Crystal Castles and have never seen them live but all I ever hear is really bad things about them so I’m sure “shite” is pretty accurate :)

    I haven’t been at T since 2007 and I don’t miss it one bit!.
    this review for me was hilariously good!.


  10. James Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:38

    An amusing review but a false account of the weekend. You have carefully followed every stereotype of the festival but they have been exaggerated.

    Do you decide someone is a ned simply by if they are wearing ‘trackies’? I wear these to almost every festival I go to, especially when camping. They are very comfortable, light and not too much of a problem if they get wet. I am not going to wear something more fashionable like jeans simply because when they get wet they are very heavy and hard to dry. At the end of the day, it’s a festival not a fashion show.

    Also, it’s very easy to criticize a band like Coldplay but I am honestly starting to question whether you were actually there. I am not a Coldplay fan and Chris Martin makes me grit my teeth but I can admit that the show they put on on Saturday night was outstanding.

    But back on to my point about neds, did you actually witness a lot of people being anti-social? People might look like a ned but actually be very pleasant to speak to. A man who sounded as if he was from Glasgow in a full tracksuit came running after me after I dropped a £10 note. Ended up having a good chat with him and he was a nice guy! I’m not disagreeing with you that there were a lot of neds but I think there were more decent people than neds this year and most people just wanted to have a good weekend.

    One last point is that you should just watch full sets rather than jumping between stages if you want to get the best out of the atmosphere.

    That’s my rant over and I understand that the Coldplay point was a bit silly, as it is just a matter of opinion. I didn’t enjoy Beyonce, but I didn’t think I would as she is not my cup of tea at all.


  11. Daniel Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:40

    Wow, people like you aren’t welcome at T. Totally glad I didn’t bump into you there.


  12. _A_N_Other Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:41

    Good article, although that guy Ciaran sounds like a bit of a dick. I’m willing to bet he’s retweeted this review to gain some followers on Twitter. Some people just need constant approval.


  13. Raspel Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:44

    Ah yes! The merges of the tide are calling! But where is not? I don’t think that more is less, or less is more but T in the Park 2011 was definitely not less, or more… No? The only thing a man like me does not understand is why there is no limits in this review, I feel like a vegetable who has just hatched after reading it. Rockness is an option, but it is not the same bash and the catastrophes you have had at Trackies in the Park is not what the punter has care about. If you could explain to me this, Natasha, I shall live and let live. Birthday tunes.


  14. _A_N_Other Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:50

    Raspel- Do you need a lie down?

    Are you numb on one half of your body?


  15. Natasha Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:53

    I decided people were neds when I saw them fighting one another, urinating on one another, pushing portaloos over, and attempting to pick fights with my friends for no reason. I’m not so much of an idiot that I assume someone is a ned because they’re wearing trackies, just as I would hope that people wouldn’t assume I was blind because I was wearing a ridiculous-looking outfit.

    I didn’t carefully follow any stereotypes of the festival. If I’d reviewed T 7 years ago, the review would be vastly different. I went along hoping to disprove the stereotypes that have followed the festival in recent years, because I remembered what a good time I’d had before (guy coming into my tent aside) and I honestly thought people were exaggerating.

    I haven’t provided a false account of the weekend. It’s the weekend as I experienced it. I conceded that Coldplay played well – but I didn’t enjoy them because I have never liked their music, just like you don’t enjoy Beyonce because she’s not your bag.

    Lastly, I watched the full sets of the bands that kept my interest.


  16. Natasha Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:56

    Now if you’ll excuse me, I have some fairtrade tea to drink. Toodle-pip!


  17. Graham Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:57

    Are you Natasha from the Apprentice???!?!?!?! What was it like meeting Sir Alan Sugar


  18. John Mathers Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 12:59

    “Now if you’ll excuse me, I have some fairtrade tea to drink. Toodle-pip!”

    I think this describes it all. Funny but terrible review.


  19. Ciaranxyz Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 13:21

    HAHA, ME MAKE FUNNY FOR NATASHA. THANKSYOU.


  20. Hamish Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 13:47

    Pretentious ’cause she likes Beyonce and not Crystal Castles?

    WHIT?!


  21. M Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 14:08

    Sigh. I wonder if John Mathers heard the sound of a jet flying overhead while writing his comment. In fact I wonder if he hears it constantly when people speak to him. Like a “whoosh” tumour.

    Good read.


  22. M Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 14:23

    Just joking, I agree with John Mathers! Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh!

    As I said, good read. Doesn’t make the content good however.


  23. Steve Fantana Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 14:24

    Who says T in the Park isn’t classy? (slightly nsfw)

    http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2366/26472520022238002667020.jpg


  24. Little Fire Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 15:51

    It was my first time at T in a couple of years, I was at this years RockNess which I enjoyed but I definitely thought T in The Park was better for its atmosphere and obviously the line up although I thought Paolo was ace at RockNess. I think a lot of people consider T to be a ned fest but the reality at least for me is there are lots of different people at T in The Park and whilst there are bound to be some bad ass ned types I’m sure there are good ones too. Maybe they just need a hug. Cool review! awooooo


  25. Eroswoof Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 17:35

    What a stuck up little woman. I’ve been to a wide variety of festivals and have found undesirable people at every single one. Although to be fair I find the pretentious twat types at Glastobury etc just as undesriable as the ‘neds’ present at TITP. I don’t believe a lot of what you’ve written seeing as I was also there (for my 6th time at the grand old age of 23), but what I do believe of it is that Crystal Castles were indeed shite (unfortunate seeing as I’m a fan). Yes of course neds exist at T, but they also exist in pretty much every Scottish town/city that I’ve visited (essentially what the Balado airfield is for the weekend). Please take your head out your own arse – you really don’t sound like a bag of laughs.


  26. NeilW Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 17:39

    Totally agree with you on the subject of Metronomy. Didn’t even know who they were but they were jumpin’. And that bass, along with the classic synth sounds, was like something right out of the 80s (in a good way).

    I enjoyed Rachel Sermanni, but agree that the dynamic shift after Metronomy wasn’t ideal.

    My highlight was The Eels. Cracking performance.

    And aye, there were a lot of neds; you don’t lie.


  27. Anonymous Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 19:17

    Maybe The West End Festival is more your thing Natasha and good to see Rachel Sermanni getting a mention on this blog for a change :) Pip pip


  28. Holden McGroyn Says:

    July 14th, 2011 at 23:11

    Jeez, that’s five minutes of my life I won’t get back!
    Sorry but there should be wee dark corners of the net for people to practice writing.
    Scotland has a proportion of uncouth, unwashed, poorly educated people – hold the front page. It’s a dirty world out there dear.
    Analysis or entertainment takes more than some industrial language and sprinkling of cliche.
    But keep trying.


  29. Boab Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 00:30

    All this vitriol over an honest account of someone’s weekend was, eh? A bit sad of people to resort to insults simply because someone else’s opinion isn’t precisely in harmony with their own.


  30. Boab Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 00:31

    That ‘was’ shouldn’t be in the first sentence. I blame tiredness.


  31. Nonpoet Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 10:20

    This is a perfectly formed and well-constructed opinion piece on the TITP festival. Anyone who states otherwise is quite frankly an idiot. Having been at the festival, I wholly agree with the points explored by Natasha.

    I think it’s very obvious that her account of the festival isn’t (as it’s being hailed) an attack on a social culture (neds); nor is it in any way ‘stuck-up’.
    I loved the article, and I think that to make assumptions about the reviewer’s background and social class is petty; even if you don’t agree with her opinion.
    I do agree with it. Coldplay were fucking dismal. The Arctic Monkeys were desperately boring. The place was overrun with anti-social ‘neds’. It was a terribly unpleasant environment due to anti-social behaviour and there were a hell of a lot of festival-goers that were clearly there for the opportunity to get fucked up, rather than to enjoy the music.

    Great piece. Perfectly summed up my experience of the weekend.


  32. Nonpoet Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 10:57

    Total genius, actually.


  33. Jacob Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 11:35

    To the person above (Nonpoet), if you thought that the Arctic Monkeys were ‘boring’ and Coldplay were ‘dismal’ you probably just lack musical intelligence and perhaps T in the Park isn’t for you if you’re hating it so much. The above poster and the author obviously are extremely narrow-minded (or simply haven’t been to many music festivals) if you thought that you could turn up and every single person was going to be pleasant. Try putting 85,000 people in a field and finding no trouble makers. However, the majority of people are just there to have a good time. If you tried speaking to these people that you label as ‘neds’ rather than taking notes about them then you may find that they are actually pleasant. Lighten up. Try T4 on the Beach.


  34. Eroswoof Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 12:28

    Nonpoet – ‘I think that to make assumptions about the reviewer’s background and social class is petty; even if you don’t agree with her opinion.’

    Is that not essentially what Natasha was doing throughout her entire article? To call those that disagree with her ‘well-constructed opinion piece’ idiots is simply absurd. It isn’t well-constructed and comes across as both cliched and immature in style. Call me an idiot if you like but I’m in the middle of doing an English PhD so ‘quite frankly’ do not need some internet arsehole to confirm to me that I’m both intelligent and entitled to an opinon.

    Oh, and just for the record; I always find far more friendly ‘neds’ at TITP than I do in your average Scottish city. Perhaps this is because I acutally give them a chance and don’t judge on sight. You and Natasha could give it a go sometime.


  35. Nonpoet Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 12:45

    Eroswoof,

    In the middle of doing your English PhD, aye? Then you must know that actually is actually spelt ‘actually’, and not ‘acutally’.

    And okay. If you think it’s harsh that I think those who disagree with the piece are idiots; fair enough.

    But you are still an idiot. Acutally.

    Yours,

    Internet arsehole


  36. Nonpoet Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 12:50

    Hello Jacob,

    ACTUALLY (see how it’s done, Eroswoof?), I don’t think that I lack musical intelligence at all. Quite the contrary, really.

    I’ve been to many a festival, and found T-in the Park to have been quite unpleasant. Although, I didn’t ever suggest that I hated the entire experience.

    Not at all. I think you’re confusing ‘narrow-mindedness’ with my ‘not-liking-shite-bands’, really.

    And of course, I’m not naive enough to think that everyone at a festival is going to want to give me a hug and kiss on arrival.

    NP


  37. P Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 13:28

    Guys, I’m putting the kettle on – anyone want a wee cuppa?


  38. chris Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 13:46

    Get over it folks. It may not be the way you see T, but don’t be stupid enough to think that everyone sees the festival as you do, and get pissed off when they don’t and write about it.

    This review probably differs a fair deal from my T experiences, but it no doubt represents a large group of people that go, and for me that makes it a good insight.


  39. M Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 14:13

    The responses here are pathetic, desperately trying to read more into a review than is there because someone offered up a different viewpoint than their own.

    Let’s face it, the notion that the article was taking aim at people’s backgrounds and social standing is erroneous at best and fucktarded at worst. Where does she do this exactly? By saying TITP is overrun with drunken bams who have shite patter? That’s nothing to do with class or social standing, but if you make that connection right away you’re being rather hypocritical trying to project your thinly-veiled opinion on someone else and acting self-righteous about it. Maybe people would have been happier with a chart breaking down the number of cuntish neds, occasionally annoying neds and harmless neds! I’m sure that wouldn’t have come at the expense of reviewing the bands.

    I also fail to see this “cliched” aspect of things, but I find it funny that anyone could defend TITP so completely while accusing others of being cliche. “Here we fucking go” chants, a pic of a guy’s hand up a girl’s skirt all over the internet. But this is cliche because…. what, someone wasn’t impressed by the Arctic Monkeys? Wow. Seems grounds for attacking someone’s unknown background!

    What’s absurd is that idiots actually come on here attacking the author for her opinion and then get defensive about “having an opinion”. If you’re entitled to your opinion and feel you shouldn’t be dismissed or insulted for that, then exactly where do you get off attacking the author? Or is that because you don’t have the balls/talent to do your own blog on the matter? Maybe you have and nobody read it.

    People grew up with T. Now it’s gone downhill. Most mature people accept that and tell it like it is, and the author did so. There are, however, immature people who can’t accept that things change for the better or worse and will forever accuse anybody with a negative opinion of their festival of being a “snob”. Easier not to face facts that way I suppose.


  40. Jim Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 14:48

    You know what they say, if you didn’t see any neds, you were probably one of them.


  41. Eroswoof Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 16:42

    I didn’t defend T entirely as though blinded by its greatness as you make out. In fact, I acknowledged that ‘neds’ aplenty attend the festival, but it’s quite clear that the reviewer is exaggerating the situation massively based on stereotypes. I didn’t believe the majority of people there to be ‘neds’ and haven’t noticed an increase in kappa tracksuits or anything else ‘ned’ related since 2004 (as is stated in the article).

    I have no problem that she wasn’t imnpressed by the Arctic Monkeys or Coldplay, and never stated that I did. For all you know I could dislike both of these bands and completely agree on the matter (as I did about Crystal Castles). If I was to have the ‘talent’ or the ability to strap on a pair big enough so as to gain the courage to write a blog littered with generalisations and stereotypes, then I would fully expect criticism along with praise.


  42. M Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 17:14

    Now now Eroswoof, not everything as directed at you. What WAS directed at you were the comments questioning where the author was making assumptions and deriding people’s social standing or background like you insinuated. You have, predictably, failed to provide any examples because there are none. Someone saw a number of people acting in a disgusting manner during the festival, commented on the abundance of that sort of behaviour, and people accuse her of looking down on a lower class? Sorry, the only people directly insinuating that lower class people were the ones acting like disgusting idiots are those commenting on the article, like yourself.

    So are you a snobby hypocrite? Or can we drop this ludicrous notion?

    She felt there were more neds there than you did. You yourself say there were “neds aplenty” and then say she “exaggerates” by saying it was mostly neds. What a disservice to the festival, she said there were “mostly” neds instead of neds “aplenty. Definitely worth complaining about. When someone says a show was “really good” do you then spend an hour arguing that it was “just good”?

    I also didn’t see her say that there was an increase of Kappa tracksuits either, she just said there were lots of them. Could it be you’re the one exaggerating?

    You also fail miserably when asked to point out where the “cliched” writing is. You keep making assertions and fail to back any of them up. You’re the one suggesting the people she talked about are lower class, you’re the one exaggerating things to suit your ridiculously petty and sad arguments, not her. I think she fully expected criticism, just not for people to be so blindingly stupid that they completely misread the article and begin accusing her of all kinds of ridiculous things which they can’t back up when asked to do so. You’re trying to read more into things than is there, unfortunately you’re a shite amateur psychologist.


  43. Natasha Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 17:23

    Saying it is ‘littered’ with generalisations is a generalisation in itself, since the bulk of the article doesn’t talk about neds at all. And the ‘cliches’ are quite obviously jokes, although I genuinely did see more Kappa tracksuits than I’ve seen since I was in primary 7. Maybe the brand is becoming cool in an ironic way. You’re one of the few people I know who has been both in 2004 and 2011 and hasn’t noticed a marked difference in the number of anti-social people in attendance. But that doesn’t make your opinion wrong; it makes it different. And therein lies the difference between you and I.

    Feel free to give me private lessons on article structure in the future. I know that having two degrees, one in Journalism, as well as a career as a features writer, has taught me precisely fuck all.


  44. Eroswoof Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 17:45

    M – I’m sure Natasha can speak for herself and doesn’t need people on the internet to do it for her. Seeing as she has a career as a features writer I’m almost entirely certain that she has plenty of experience in handling criticism and dealing with the opinions of those who read her work. You really don’t need to put your oar so far in. I’m entitled to an opinon on a review of something I’m interested in. I’m betting Natasha would rather people read her stuff and find it interesting enough to form any sort of opinon on it as opposed to completely not giving a shit/not reading it at all. You’re evidently a smug prick so shan’t be wasting any more time replying to you. Ta ta!


  45. M Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 18:06

    In other words, “no, I still can’t back up any of my assertions, I did exaggerate my opinions on her article and make leading assumptions that were wildly off the mark”. I’m glad you came to terms with it so easily.

    Your opinions were all about exaggerating, making assumptions about someone else and accusing them of the same, and making general assertions which (as above) were generalisations themselves. And you couldn’t even back any of your criticisms up. It’s one thing to have an opinion, it’s another to tell someone their opinion is wrong with nothing of substance to prove that. I doubt you even know what hypocrisy means.

    Plenty of people gave a shit. The blog has had loads of hits. Not all of them decided to bitch because it was a different viewpoint and then make a series of pathetic and baseless accusations as a result. I’m glad that you’re the one resorting to insults though champ, you’re coming out of this looking golden huh? Bye now.


  46. Anonymous Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 22:00

    Natasha, when you say you have not one but two degrees in Journalism and have a career in writing features are you being ironically ironic or ironically ironic ironically ? Im confused :)


  47. Anonymous Says:

    July 15th, 2011 at 22:03

    Can I also add for what its worth that irrespective of what me or anyone else thinks your article has generated 40+ comments which is an editors dream :)


  48. David Says:

    July 16th, 2011 at 00:02

    I think this review was great! It’s the first time I’ve read something interesting on this blog lol. Sack Pop Cop.


  49. Dave Says:

    July 16th, 2011 at 01:07

    No way is this Natasha from the Apprentice? My mate linked me up, didn’t realize you were a journalist too! I love that show! What was Jim like in real life? Was so sad when you got fired.


  50. Anonymous Says:

    July 16th, 2011 at 10:41

    lol on what planet could that be natasha from the apprentice.


  51. The Ginger Assassin Says:

    July 19th, 2011 at 11:41

    The photo of “Stranger1″ is my mate, Mini. He likes to make new friends.


  52. John D. Says:

    July 19th, 2011 at 13:34

    What a load of jibberish about what’s simply a fun article. “The Grinch Goes To Miami And Gets An Awesome Tan”. Bravo! Arctic Monkeys were great fun back in 2005 but have completely failed to develop. Take “Cornerstone” – lovely tune, but played as if the band are wearing boxing gloves – really disappointing, and murdered even more vigorously when performed live. Natasha’s assesment is spot on.

    Coldplay are just a really bland band. Do you know anybody really fun who likes them? No. Every Coldplay fan I have ever met is a Serious Business (and liable to get wound up and uptight by a playful article like this one). Crystal Castles can admittedly sound quite grisly live but it’s all about getting in a lively nick, running down the front and jumping about. Can’t beat it. Try that next time Natasha!


  53. Barbara Says:

    July 19th, 2011 at 15:10

    funny article but mainly rubbish, i was a titp this yr and many others, it is not over run by neds it is a fair mix, it doesn’t matter if you are a geek, a ned , a mosher or anything else a titp anything goes thats why it is such an ace place to go!! totally biased and wrong review!!!!!! and you said it yourself you never wanted to go!!! and the campsite actually makes a festival its how you get to meet more people, i love titp and the campsite is, where you get to see all diffrent types of people and interact with others!!!


  54. Tam fae Langloan Says:

    July 19th, 2011 at 23:34

    t in the parks no for neds. i was there and i pure lovd it man, neckin pure hunners eh eccies and dancin to the music at the dodgems and whit?


  55. Iain Champion Says:

    February 11th, 2012 at 00:26

    I have not read this article but from the comments posted above it seems clear to me that the future of this once great and noble land is now in the hands of a load of fucking women, homosexualists and all the rest of it. I hate t in the park I ruddy well hate it.


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